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KSG VS Model 1887

Discussion in 'Modern Warfare 3 Multiplayer Discussion' started by IshTing, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. IshTing

    IshTing Stuff And Things Staff Member

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    I'm confused about these guns. From what I've heard the KSG is the better gun but people prefer the Model? Now skotch has just said it again.

    Anyone care to explain why this is?
     
  2. Rushify YT

    Rushify YT General

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    I just got the KSG gold today, from level 1-31. I also have the model gold, and used it today as well. What can I say, the KSG is better on good connection, but the model is better on bad connection.
     
  3. Skotch

    Skotch General

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    I say the KSG is better for 2 reasons- The pump animation is a little quicker than the models lever animation. But the main thing for me is that it holds alot more rounds than the model, especially with ex/mags which free's up perk slot 1 for Marathon, as I have to run SOH with the model.
    In saying that the model is still my favorite and it also has better range than the KSG. If im trying to do well than i'd pick the KSG, if i want to have fun i'll choose the model.
     
  4. eddydc1

    eddydc1 Lieutenant General

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    Sorry this is maybe off topic but: what is best game mode to level shotguns?

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  5. IshTing

    IshTing Stuff And Things Staff Member

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    I've heard hardcore modes are good as it's almost always 1HK.
     
  6. eddydc1

    eddydc1 Lieutenant General

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    ok thanks.

    Back to topic: i think ksg is better because its shoots faster. If you miss with model you are dead mwn.

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  7. Ugly Kids

    Ugly Kids Command Sergeant

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    Look at it a little more factually.

    The KSG is a pump action shotgun with 9 pellets a shot, versus the Model 1887 which is a lever action shotgun with 8 pellets a shot. So, from close to long range, you're looking anywhere from 252 - 135 damage on the KSG compared to 240 - 160 on the 1887.

    The KSG can get off a second shot quicker than you could get off a second shot with the 1887. In comparison, the 1887 could, definitely at range, take out an enemy in one hit more likely than the KSG could at range (Factor in how many pellets need to hit and consider the spread [virtually none on the 1887]).

    There's many pros and cons to it really. The KSG has several attachments to it you can use, where as the 1887 comes with no attachments at any given point, only proficiency.

    I've been leveling up the KSG as of late, just to be that guy with all the gold shotguns. My KDR with both of them is under 1.0, so. All of my other shotguns are well over 1.3. I prefer the Spas over the KSG, I've just had more accuracy.

    I would definitely say that the KSG is more user-friendly. More pellets a shot, faster fire rate, attachments, etc.

    But I'd take the model. I love Specialist bonus with it.
     
  8. MDK

    MDK Captain

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    model is cool but my ksg with extendos and damage is the real killer. all the mag capacity frees up for marathon so you can flank em.
     
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    CyberShotz 8th Prestige

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    Opposite for me. The Model is dreadful on a bad connection.
     
  10. daftpunk

    daftpunk Lets get Mortal ..

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    The thing is though the SPAS is the best pump ...
     
  11. xDJSKaaRJNiNJA

    xDJSKaaRJNiNJA Recruit

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    I'm a HC player.
    Always preferred the models w/ damage.
    Excellent range for a shotty - if you can aim.
    Only downside is ballistic vests take 2 shots.. that's difficult in HC for any shotty.
     
  12. tytlyf

    tytlyf Shield Master

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    KSG for hipfiring. Model for ADS
     
  13. sweaty groat

    sweaty groat Yorkshire Scum

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    Yep indeed it is,model is just way too many hitmarkers even with damage.
     
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    Is the KSG a better pump than the Spas now? I'm almost done leveling up my L86 and I'm gonna go for the USAS next, then I was venturing into the semi-auto boys.
     
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    sweaty groat Yorkshire Scum

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    Cybershotz thinks the KSG is the best pump action,i have never got it to damage before. The SPAS is decent like.
     
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    I'll have to play around with them.
     
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    I personally like the KSG better, but I never used the Model Before..
    Also.. Is KSG better with damage or range?
     
  18. Koutei Koba

    Koutei Koba Command Sergeant

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    I'm much better at breaking the lever-action animation with the Model (to get slightly faster RPM out of it) than I am with the KSG. That being said, I prefer the KSG since I like running extended mags on it and the hip spread is just ridiculously tight. What a lot of people don't realize is that the hip spread is actually tighter than the ADS spread (if you don't believe me, test it against a wall: the hip shot will look like you shot a canon ball at the wall, while the ADS will be a bit more spread out), so, as counterintuitive as it might sound, it's better to ADS if you've got two guys bunched up together or if someone is strafing, and better to hipfire long shots.
     
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    nick779 1st Lieutenant

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    you had to be playing 24 hours a day then, getting 30 kills with my ksg per game, it took me around a day of playtime to get it gold


    and the ksg is statistically better then the spas now. i have great luck with the ksg, and really really bad luck with the model. i mean i have a problem when i fire 3 shots into center mass and dont kill someone with a shotty
     
  20. Rushify YT

    Rushify YT General

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    Nope, I played 5 hours and got it gold. I dropped 2 MOABs and some 50+ kill games using specialist.



    With that aside, to those who think the KSG shoots faster than the Model 1887 are wrong. There's a certain thing you can do to make it shoot faster.

    @Groat: The KSG is better than the Spas statistically and in-game I guess. It has more range and better damage.
     
  21. Deadpool

    Deadpool Back in the saddle again.

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    The best dude to get in here about this conversation is Noodlepan. Dude's a beat with the shotties.
     
  22. Koutei Koba

    Koutei Koba Command Sergeant

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    lol, you mean the guy who thinks grip affects hipspread? Yeah, he's a real expert
     
  23. TPizzle

    TPizzle I Piss Excellence

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    I haven't used the ksg near as much as the model. Need to give it a proper go here pretty soon. The ksg may be technically better then the model, all the shotguns actually, but as I said before I FEEL LIKE A FUCKING OUTLAW running around buckin punks with the model.
     
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    nick779 1st Lieutenant

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    It might not affect hipspread, but it does affect the pump speed making it the only attachment worthwhile for pump actions. So he made a little mistake on the paper, but it doesn't deny the fact he has a lot of experience on shotties in action.

    I can second this :lol:

    At the moment I have all shotguns but KSG gold (that sitting at lvl 30). Model's my favorite pump. I've always hated SPAS for some reason, even with the Ext. mags glitch it was more inconsistent than the others.

    Pump-actions are good fun but if you want the best shotgun, go with the USAS.
     
  26. Koutei Koba

    Koutei Koba Command Sergeant

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    I think grip only affects the Spas pump speed
     
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    nick779 1st Lieutenant

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    ever hear of Alphadogg?
     

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