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R3dRocket's detailed MOAB guide

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  1. R3dRocket11

    R3dRocket11 General

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    This is long, because it needs to be.

    Alright I figured it is about time to create a detailed MOAB guide to help all those struggling to get one or want to get more. I have a bunch, and usually get one every 10-15 games of trying to get one.

    I'm going to start with class set ups. These are going to be your best bets, figured out by lots of trial and error. These set ups are for kill based games with dynamic spawns (KC, TDM, ETC.)

    Class 1

    SCAR extended mags/focus
    Stinger
    Portable Radar/C4

    Scavenger
    Quickdraw
    Stalker

    Assassin/Steady Aim/Hardline

    Maps: Dome, Hardhat, Bootleg

    - Even though these maps are small, there are lots of long lines of sight that an SMG is not suited for. The smaller the map, the less you need assassin so just unlock it with your second perk. Watch killcams for heartbeat sensors and the ground for portable radars.
    - Scavenger is a must on the SCAR. With the reload cancel, it reloads extremely fast without sleight of hand. Have a Stinger as your secondary to add points to your streak and take out pesky choppers.
    - On these small maps, it is very important to anticipate the spawns. Throw down your portable as soon as you spawn to let you know when the other team spawns behind you.

    Class 2

    PP90M1 Silencer/Extended Mags or P90 Rapid Fire/Silencer
    MP9 silenced
    Portable Radar/C4

    Extreme Conditioning
    Assassin
    Dead Silence

    Sitrep Pro/Steady Aim/Hardline

    Maps: Carbon, Lockdown, Bootleg, Underground, Seatown, Mission

    - Stay out of the long lines of sight. Your SMG is not going to hold up against ACRs at 200 yards out even if you have specialist bonus.
    - Flank (run the outsides of the map to get behind the enemy team) and get to the other teams spawn point and clear them out. Use your radar, soundwhoring, and instinct to notice if IW decided to spawn someone next to you.
    - Get in as many 1v1s in close range as possible, especially when you have your specialist bonus.
    - Use everything at your disposal. Headglitching, dropshotting, strafing. Not a fan of jump shotting, as it will get you killed half the time.
    - Pick your battles. Stay inside as much as you can, moving under cover so you won't get picked off.

    Class 3

    ACR (or any AR that tickles your fancy) Extended Mags/silencer
    MP9 Silenced

    Blind Eye
    Assassin
    Stalker

    Dead Silence/Sit rep Pro/Hardline

    Maps: Any and All.

    - This class is the best all purpose out of the 3.
    - Strafe in every fire fight you get in. Stalker is a game changer.
    - Once you get sitrep pro, soundwhore as hard as possible. If you hear something, it is likely an enemy because your teammates footsteps are muted.
    - Always be moving, and always be moving carefully. Stalker is your friend, aiming down your sights through high traffic areas will save your ass. Getting caught sprinting will leave you moab-less.

    General Tips

    - Get all the perks pro especially sitrep, steady aim, and recon. Turns you in to Superman.
    -Don't stay in one place too long. Eventually they will wisen up and come behind you.
    - They best time to kill someone is when they just spawned. If people get to their camp spots, they are harder to take out.
    - MOABs are easier for me playing solo because my connection is better, although they are easiest in Dom with a full party where you can hold two flags keep the other team contained in one area.
    - When you hear a stealth bomber up in the sky, look up and try to see where it is coming from and get the hell out of the way.
    - Use specialist every game. You never know when you can go on a big streak.
    - Have a friend run UAVs for you, run UAVs in return. Works out pretty well.
    - Strafing is better than drop shotting when you have specialist, except in really close quarters. Remember you get a 10 speed increase and stalker, so you are very hard to hit when strafing especially with an SMG.
    - If you take alot of damage, ditch your pride and get to cover. Just run away and regenerate your health. Same thing applies if you have enemies shooting at you from multiple directions.
    - Mute your teammates whenever you are on a long streak unless they give good callouts. They are just distractions at that point, and teammates asking you how close you are is just going to take your mind off playing the game.
    - Don't play to get a MOAB until you get your specialist bonus. Focus on getting 7 kills in a row first, then go after it. If you play too slow at the start, you might not have enough time to get one.
    - If everything is queit, and you don't know where the enemy is then move really slow. Chances are the other team is camping somewhere.
    - Let randumbs walk in to the open and go die first, go in behind them and mop up the kills.
    - If your whole team is going one way and getting slaughtered, go the other way. Sounds obvious, but I am saying it anyway because so many people just join in and feed the other team killstreaks.
    - Pay attention to who you are playing against. For instance, if there is a blind eye/assassin/dead silence fag with a MK14 camping on the ledges in mission but bad kids in the middle with MP5s, then go kill the bad kids.
    - In KC if you are close to a MOAB and your team has a healthy lead on tags, don't pick up tags.
    - TDM and FFA have the worst players, but also the worst spawns. Choose your game mode appropriately.
    - Use your portable radar to your advantage, and throw it in a spawn area. For instance on Lockdown, I run to the other side of the map and throw a portable down in their spawn and clear them out. Pick up portable, move to their next spawn. Repeat.
    - When you DO get your MOAB, wait to call it in until you die or when the game is about to end. Trust me.
    - When you are running out of time in the game and on a long streak, just go charge the other team. Dying with a chance of a moab is better than playing it safe.
    - If more than 2 people are using assassin or dead silence, it will make it tough. Might even want to go to assault depending on the map.
    - Find bad kids. Really, really bad kids. If they leave the lobby, go to your recent players and invite them back in. It's just easier to get moabs against bks.



    Most importantly, just keep trying. Some lobbies are impossible to get one in, because of connection or quality of the other players, but many lobbies are just chalked full of bad kids.

    Happy MOAB hunting.
     
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  2. Mushy2008

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    What is your moab percentage?

    number of moabs/total games played. curious
     
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    keyst0negamer Recruit

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    thanks for the guide quite informing and ill give your class setups a shot
     
  4. RockerLOD

    RockerLOD Human tripod

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    Nice post r3d... +1
    The only thing I question is the "wait till u die or until near end of the match to call it in".. EMP's can prevent you from calling it in.. 9-10, scrub lobbies (moab friendly lobbies) are almost always full to the gills with those.. I call mine in immediately lol. Cuz I know even if they call in a EMP, if the countdown has begun, its already to late for them..
     
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    definitely will be giving it a shot pretty soon here... my favs are ACR and PP90 so ill start with those.
     
  6. R3dRocket11

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    Mushy, hell if I know. The first time I ran specialist was after my 80,000th or so kill because all I played was TDM (shame on me). Had 3 assault moabs before I even tried specialist. Not to mention quickscoping, SnD, and other bullshit that I do where I have a very minimal chance of getting one. I get one every 4-5 hours of gameplay or so when I try for them. I have no doubt in my mind I could be over 150 if I ran specialist from day 1 and only played KC with the classes listed above, maybe more if I played Dom partied up.

    - Rocker, the problem with calling in a MOAB while you are still on a streak is the other team will spawn directly around you, every time. It is also harder to soundwhore after a MOAB goes off. On top of that, I have been kileld calling it in like 10 times.
     
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    Very good guide R3d. +rep

    The only thing I have my doubts about is the same thing rocker mentioned. Bad kids always runs support and think their cool when they call in EMP's. I just call mine in right away to guarantee it doesn't get blocked by the guy that is 16-35.
     
  8. R3dRocket11

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    video of you getting dome on a moab
     
  10. GNK|D3adly

    GNK|D3adly Sergeant Major

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    Thanks for the guide, man! I'll try these classes from now on. And subbed
     
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  11. R3dRocket11

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    I do enjoy dome, thats for sure
     
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    hey man I heard you like dome, so we put dome in your dome so you can dome while you dome.
     
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    I use support and its cool to call emp.

    But, nice guide!
     
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    I know, I use them *occassionally* too. It just makes me upset that people who can't even get a 0.5 kd in a game get to call in anything, much less something that takes out ks's good players have earned.
     
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  15. Brofski

    Brofski Septic Schizo

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    Good guide. I got my 10th earlier and use a lot of those tips in my play.

    An AR with ex mag and silencer works best for me.
     
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    Good post.
    For the second class, I have to add that if someone uses the pp90m1 with rapid fire and no ext mags, then even with the mp9 as backup, one will run out of ammo by the 5th kill. Picking a weapon while on the second/third kill, or putting scavenger as second or third unlock will fix the lack of ammo.
    Also if one doesnt use ext mags on the pp90, then SoH helps a lot in order to reload faster, and/or switch at lighting speed to the mp9 in case one encounters multiple enemies at once from many directions.
     
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    Nice post Red, I actually use the same setup on my SCAR MOAB class except I use SOH in place of Scav. I can get to the bonus by the time I run low on ammo, but I always get shot from behind or something shitty happens. I'll give the portable radar a try see how that goes.
     
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    Ahhh.. makes sense..
     
  19. TPizzle

    TPizzle I Piss Excellence

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    Nice R3d very good advice. Alot i already put into practice but other things ill give a try to see if i can add to the 6 moabs i currently have. Repped
     
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    Nice guide. I do a few of these things except have the classes down to a "T".

    I know I'll get one sooner or later...just need to slow the pace down.

    Next week is "try to get a M.O.A.B." time. It will happen & I will think nothing of it afterwards.
     
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    whats the point of using hardline as the last perk?
     
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    I also wanted to say that your 2nd suggested class simply just works. Use that one people! I do not care for or even feel that comfortable with the PP90m1 or P90 but ive gotten 2 moabs with each using almost that exact same setup
     
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    It gets your specialist bonus with one less kill ( 7 kills instead of 8 ). Whats the point in getting 6 kills and a 3rd perk when with one more kill you can get all of them right away?
     
  24. Pink Taco

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    why not just use hardline as your 2nd perk then you get the first specialist perk with one kill?
     
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    w2gMk All my pokemon have TM 87

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    ok tried this but with my m60... 23-1... thanks alot you damn HC grenade launching fruits!
     
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    Its a waste of a perk. Might as well sart with assassin.
     
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    Why would someone do that if they can already get that "one kill" perk by default if you put it instead of hardline?
     
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    Thanks for that post. I read through and I can't disagree with any of your points. I still, have yet to get a freaking MOAB. I've tried everything, and I always get killed when I have around 20 kills. I'm not even really sure if it's worth trying for anymore. Just noticed your signature says 42 MOABs, that's incredible. Going for my first is getting harder and harder each time.
     
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    It will come with time. Just has to be a mix of everything coming together. Just have to take advantage when that happens.
     
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    I'm trying too get Moab I'm 12 prestige I use acr scavenger QuickDraw stalker!! I can get 40-6 in a game but I keep gettin killed whn I'm near a moab I
    Have had 22 kills before any tips
     
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    Thanks for the guide... I'm gonna have to try this out.
     
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    Rep'd. Awesome post R3d. Unfortunately even with this new patch, the 768kbps internet connection kids are king right now. -.-
     
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    You are very talented rocket... Fantastic Videos, and i love the sarcasm. "fuck you infinity ward" rofl
     
  34. R3dRocket11

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    Thanks.


    And yes, the patch was absolutely fucking miserable.
     
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  35. Keyser Blowzé

    Keyser Blowzé If u don't no, now u no

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    Good shit man. You forgot to add:

    -Play with Mushy so he can will spam the shit out of UAV/CUAV the whole game for you AND he will kill his fair share of scoobs while he's at it.
     
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    Nice guide, Nick. I can't say I'll try them because I'm not really a MOAB hunter. I must have been close yesterday with my 40-1 on Village, but I was using assault. Strangely enough, I was using a level 6 L86 LSW and Javelin class. (WTF??) I think I was 12-0 when I died though, so I still had a few to get before I would start thinking about it. If I ever get a wild hair on my ass and decide to give it a try, though, I'll keep this info in mind. It's nice to see what you use, though, because I know it works! +Rep
     
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    Thanks for sharing the info.

    Interesting that you stated to wait until the end to detonate... All of my MOABs I would detonate right after I got them, and then I would die after the enemies spawned all over the place...

    I never go out to get a MOAB, I think by doing that, it lessens the chances. Even if you die early, it doesnt mean that you cant get one, but it lowers the chances slightly... Having more GREEN players on your team can help, if you play with a good squad, chances of getting a MOAB go down unless they are helping. With Noob greenies, they can get the enemy out of their cover to kill them, and you can pick them off.

    I play much more often using SMG's than any other class. But I think I only have 1 MOAB with an SMG. AR with Specialist is much more effective. And I have most of my MOABs with them. Last night I went on a 22 kill streak with my ACR silenced, and I had picked up another ACR silenced and was just decimating the other team until I got flash/fragged. I didnt realize how close I was from the MOAB because I had died a few times already, when I looked at the scoreboard when I died I had 35-3, and knew that it was a close one... All the MOABs except for one just came, and I didnt feel like I was working extra near the point that I got them. The more you think about it, the lower the chance of getting it.

    In general, I feel that once you get Specialist, you should try to scavenge a strong second primary if you can. Dont go out of your way for it, but pick one up if you are near, even if its almost out of ammo. The only time I dont scavange for a second primary, is when I am using an SMG or Shottie, with MP9 silenced as the secondary. The MP9 is rediculous with Specialist.
     
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  38. R3dRocket11

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    I think about them, every time. Not on getting actually getting the MOAB, but where I need to go and what routes I need to take to get it. If you do not play to preserve and extend your streak, you will just get cut short of it most of the time.

    Lately though, I haven't been playing pubs much and when I do it is either SnD or trying to get an MP9 or M60 MOAB. The MP9 one should be easier, the gun is a four hit kill though and gets me in trouble vrs. multiple enemies.
     
  39. TomOnDuty

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    Great write up I am going to use your ACR class the base class is what I use but that isn't my specialist I ma going to try yours .

    + rep
     
  40. CALL OF BOOTY

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    I woulda died at the point where the guy spawned 10 feet from you :(

    I have no headset :(
     
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